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Robbings are now Risk Free?
We currently have a debate going in AFs concerning robbings.
My stance:
If you rob someone, be prepared to face any and all consequences.
Their stance:
No Consequences for robbings.
This discussion happened because KD A robbed KD B. KD B then arsoned KD A. KD A went to AFs complaining over the Arsons. (Plat robbed = 12k, 2 buildings were lost total) Problems Officer D got a retal approved for Arsons from KD B's SL.
When asked why a retal was even asked for, I was told "A lot of people use robbing as their main source of income."
Thoughts?
My stance:
If you rob someone, be prepared to face any and all consequences.
Their stance:
No Consequences for robbings.
This discussion happened because KD A robbed KD B. KD B then arsoned KD A. KD A went to AFs complaining over the Arsons. (Plat robbed = 12k, 2 buildings were lost total) Problems Officer D got a retal approved for Arsons from KD B's SL.
When asked why a retal was even asked for, I was told "A lot of people use robbing as their main source of income."
Thoughts?
Comments
Sabo/Arson are aggressive probings.
KD A Robbed KD B One time, KD B Retalled with 2 aggressive probings.
Aggressive probings vs the alliance = retal
And Pie, rather than put up your side of the story why not put the whole thing.
No where was it stated that there was no consequence for robbings, If you get robbed a lot on a regular basis by the same person, then yes retal back. But if you arson/sabo over 1 rob, you deserve to get hit right back.
And Flazer, I agree with you to a point. If we are in the middle of a war, yes don't waste your probes. But daily day to day SK'n?
I just want to know, are Robs risk free? If I get bashed for robbing someone can I run crying to AFs like a little bitch? If someone just grabs me and sends a "that's for robbing me" message... Can I grab my bottle and blankie and cry in the AFs that he hit me cause I robbed him?
Or do I man up and say.. "Hey, if I rob Flazer, there's a chance he will hit me for it" and take that risk myself...
I guess if my FDC catches people robbing me I'm just supposed to say "Um, excuse me... Mister, can you.. uh, not do that? I am not allowed to do anything about it... But please, please stop? Thank you, kind Sir."
(don't try to convince me you're not an asshole, instead accept the role as far as the opposing kds/alliances are concerned)
Spend your money or shut the hell up. Going to the alliance over such trivial matters makes you look weak and pathetic. It's not Kingdom A's fault that your Kingdom is a piece of shit.
Pie's topic is disinfo as the real issue is arson and his purpose is to deflect attention from it. Plus arguing with Zamerano is always a fail. Pay some respect to the veterans of this game or I will multi rape your ass again. Maybe I should say agains as it happens so frequently. You have been warned.
I call BS that you should just let it go...if you rob a DW that can roll you, you can be sure theres a 25% chance of getting smashed. Arsons are no different. You take my money, therefore I make you lose my money, go rob someone else.
Its not practical to spend your money 24h a day, a decently built kingdom will be a good rob if they ever have to sleep like normal people. If you want to risk taking the money, then accept the consequences.
If you rob, should you be willing to accept the consequences of doing so? Be it being grabbed, arsoned, robbed back.. etc. And if there are no consequences to robbing and its non-aggressive... Why can't I rob intra-alliance? If it doesn't affect someone negatively (which would be my definition of non-aggressive) and the only suitable response to being robbed is "shit, should spend your money"... Then I should be able to intra-alliance rob, but I can't.
Also most people's main source of gaining land is by attacking... So that needs to be made non-aggressive.
It's interesting how much the playermade rules cater to top kingdoms haha, people like Pie get shafted by almost every rule. We say "grab them back, but all other methods are banned", if he could roll the guy back he obviously wouldnt need to cry to the AFs.
I remember a round where Silverion posted in the problems thread that lynog and qwj were intralliance robbing him erryday. I believe it was HG, the al or val, said "spend your money noob lolololol"
Next time post them in the sox thread without comment. Then they will get smashed 3x. Case closed.
If I catch someone rob me, there-s a decent chance they are getting hit. I think robs are just as aggressive as an arson, as they cost me similar amounts of $$$ at the end of the day.
Moral of the story: robs hurt kingdoms, don't be surprised and bitch when they bite back.
I usually dont care enough about the odd rob, but if I see a name appear more than once or the name of somebody i dont like I will hit them, even for 1 rob.
Bottom line should be from ALs, rob who you can easily defend against
Steal from me and slow down my build, better believe that I'll do something back on my own if I catch you.
However, I wouldn't expect my alliance to get involved.