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US states refusing Syrian Refugees

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  • i wont say that i'm angry about gassing up at 1.50 today...
  • $1.50 per gallon?
  • Yup, it's around 1.73 in Houston.
  • wow.... 1.30 here... per litre.
  • edited November 2015
    Looks like y'all need to do some invadin... :D the lowest I've ever seen it is $1.26 when I was a kid which should put into perspective how low this shit really is lol.
  • I think it has todo with a more US friendly than a Russia friendly government being in control of Syria. It's pretty much another proxy war, except with the addition of the ISIS having setup shop there aswell gives it more appeal than simply just another Vietnam or Korean war,
  • It's around $1.75/gallon here in Ohio
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    I think it has todo with a more US friendly than a Russia friendly government being in control of Syria. It's pretty much another proxy war, except with the addition of the ISIS having setup shop there aswell gives it more appeal than simply just another Vietnam or Korean war,
    Yup... and who do you think engineered ISIS involvement... to make it more sell-able to it's constituents? :D

  • http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/middle_east.gif

    we have Iraq, Saudi, the GCC, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Turkey as either occupied territories or allies. look at where syria is on the map and tell me again that we somehow need them to deal with Iran.


    also, ISIS was not the only rebel group trying to take out assad

    What is Oil Pipelines and Instability in certain regions for 500 Alex?

    Particularly, see https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/Mosul-Haifa_oil_pipeline.svg/1024px-Mosul-Haifa_oil_pipeline.svg.png

    Closed for decades, the US attempted to get it in working order in 2003. But cooperation within the region has always been shaky, at best. And Iraq is large and full of Shia

    This is the pipeline we want built: http://blog.curry.com/images/2012/02/07/syria-turkey.jpg

    >>But why do we want that pipeline running?

    Here's a rather brief history lesson:

    In 1989, Qatar and Iran began to develop the South Pars/North Dome field, which is buried 3,000 meters below the floor of the Persian Gulf. With 51 trillion cubic meters of gas and 50 billion cubic meters of liquid condensates, it is the largest natural gas field in the world. Approximately one-third of its riches lie in Iranian waters and two-thirds in Qatari ones.

    Since the discovery, Qatar has invested heavily in liquefied natural gas (LNG) plants and terminals that enable it to ship its gas around the world in tankers. Yet liquefaction and shipping increase total costs and, particularly as gas prices have slipped, Qatari gas has remained easily undercut in European markets by cheaper pipeline gas from Russia and elsewhere. And so, in 2009, Qatar proposed to build a pipeline to send its gas northwest via Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Syria to Turkey, an investment of billions of dollars up front that would reduce transportation costs over the long term. However, Syrian President Bashar al Assad refused to sign the plan; Russia, which did not want to see its position in European gas markets undermined, put him under intense pressure not to.
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    Russia's success/growth of their markets has hinged on the oil/natural gas markets. It's why Putin is so popular.

    Russia's GDP:
    http://static.guim.co.uk/ni/1430913796923/Russia-GDP.svg

    "No, no, it can't just be about pipelines! Besides, that happened in 2009. Why did they wait?"

    I assume it's because NATO allies assumed Assad could eventually be won over with cash, but that's conjecture. What got the fire lit under their asses was this:

    At the same time, Iran, sensing an opportunity, and lacking export infrastructure for its own massive gas reserves, proposed an alternative Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline that would pump Iranian gas from the same field out via Syrian ports such as Latakia and under the Mediterranean. Moscow apparently blessed this project, possibly believing that Russia would have an easier time dealing with Iran (unlike Qatar, not home to a U.S. base) to control gas imports to Europe from Iran, the Caspian Sea region, and Central Asia. The announcement of the Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline deal came in 2011. The parties signed the documents in July 2012. Construction was slated to be finished in 2016, but the Arab Spring and ensuing chaos in Syria interfered.
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    After this was announced, then came the sanctions that prevent any pipelines with joint operations with Iran being made (which still cannot be done due to sanctions, a tidbit about another pipeline is here http://thediplomat.com/2015/08/will-the-iran-pakistan-gas-pipeline-really-go-ahead/ )

    So there you have it. The origin of the "Arab Springs" and all that garbage about Ghaddafi, Assad, and Mubarak is about fucking pipelines.

  • TL:dr. Summary please.
  • edited November 2015
    Whoops, forgot this last part... http://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/Israeli-Set-To-Become-Major-Exporter-Of-Natural-Gas.html . For the first time, Israel is looking to export natural gas. Doesn't hurt that Libya, Egypt, and Tunisia no longer export thanks to the Arab Spring. Additionally, it explains why Russia has been bombing the shit out of ISIS lately.

    utin and Netanyahu to strike deal on Leviathan gas field

    The Australian

    October 20, 2015 12:00AM

    Russia wants to be the major partner in Israel's offshore Leviathan natural gas field in the eastern Mediterranean, a top ­Israeli foreign affairs analyst said in Sydney yesterday.

    Ehud Yaari, the senior Middle East commentator for Israel's Channel Two news, said everybody regrets a deal was not done with Woodside and that until now Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had ruled out a Gazprom deal.

    Gazprom bid for a stake in the project in 2012 but was beaten by Woodside, which pulled out of the joint venture in May last year. Mr Yaari said with the Russians now in Syria, Mr Netanyahu was likely to reconsider.
    He said Mr Putin had told Mr Netanyahu: We will make sure there will be no provocation against the gas fields by Hezbollah or Hamas. Nobody messes with us.

    Tldr natural gas pipelines, Arab spring, the jews, the russians, turkey, and NATO
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